John D.
05-28-2007, 05:32 PM
Yes. you should. If not for yourself, for the other guy/gal who buys
the car from you. You can ask more for it (at least enough to cover
all those Mobil 1 oil changes!) since it's had Mobil 1 in it for those
2 years...explain why that is a big positive factor if the buyer is
ignorant.
As for your car that was wrecked, you could sell the engine for more,
too, for the same reason.
I plan on keeping my car indefinitely so Mobil 1 is in the engine and
AT. But even if I don't keep it, someone else would benefit from that
care.
Good luck,
John D.
"noway" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<kzOKa.329141$3n5.297076@news2.central.cox.net>...
> Well then there is always the case that I have.
>
> I ran Mobil 1 in my last car, took real nice care of it, and some jerk
> smashed me in the back end and totaled it. Now I have a 2003 Civic EX Coupe.
> Wondering if its worth spending the extra on synthetic, especially since I
> don't know if I'll keep the car more than a year or 2, cause I don't really
> like it that much.
>
> "Bill Freeman" <bfree@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:bat57d$3ado5$1@ID-82447.news.dfncis.de...
> > The original question was on the viability of synthetic vs
> petroleum
> > based oils. This is a Honda newsgroup, so airplane analogies are
> > irrelevant. Synthetics do not generate petroleum sludges and varnish
> (from
> > oil breakdown under heat) because they are not petroleum products, retain
> > their viscosity under pressure, heat & cold .. . and are superior for
> these
> > reasons in automotive applications. What do you not understand?
> >
> > "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:vX9Aa.38035$cK1.13361@news01.bloor.is.net.cab le.rogers.com...
> > >
> > > "Bill Freeman" <bfree@netzero.net> wrote in message
> > > news:bar6n2$2eote$1@ID-82447.news.dfncis.de...
> > > > Automotive engines are not uniformly cooled. That's the
> problem.
> > > > Hot spots occur wherever there is insufficient cooling and/or
> lubrication.
> > >
> > > Uh-huh.
> > > Varying loads, too, like in, oh I dunno...an automobile engine.
> > >
> > > > Lubrication is really a response to insufficient cooling (which
> airplane
> > > > piston engines have aplenty).
> > >
> > > I hope that makes sense to you.
> > >
> > > >Example of the difference is between airplane
> > > > aircooled and VW aircooled .. . which usually required straight 30w
> oils.
> > >
> > > And are run under vastly different loadings than automobile engines.
> > >
> > > > Sludge and varnish occur wherever overheated/insufficiently cooled
> parts
> are
> > > > lubricated.
> > >
> > > Oh.
> > > Gee, the other UG* figures it's the piston blowby.
> > >
> > > >The type of lubrication determines the amount of
> > > > varnish/sludge.
> > >
> > > I hope that makes sense to you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > *Usenet Genius
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:Ok7Aa.36953$cK1.13764@news01.bloor.is.net.cab le.rogers.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > "w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3ED0FEC8.71E79160@hotmail.com...
> > > > > > Cars don't have the large temperature variations that make
> > > > > > synthetic important. You are thinking of temperatures in
> > > > > > terms of human skin. Auto lubricants have mild temperature
> > > > > > ranges which conventional oils are most than sufficient for.
> > > > >
> > > > > My engines run from -31C to over 35C.
> > > > >
> > > > > > The problem is dirt that gets into the oil. It is why
> > > > > > airplane oil comes out so clean and why car oil comes out so
> > > > > > black.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, I guess that's one way of looking at it.
> > > > > Most of the combustion gases in an IC engine go out the exhaust, but
> in
> a
> > > > > jet engine, they *all* do.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Problems such as sludge and varnish would be a problem IF we
> > > > > > did not have to change oils so frequently due to
> > > > > > contamination. That contamination is so great that piston
> > > > > > engines also required crankcase ventilation. That
> > > > > > contamination from around pistons is so great that the EPA
> > > > > > required it to be contained so as to not pollute - the PCV
> > > > > > valve requirement that was later mandated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep. And jet engines just piss it out.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Synthetic verses conventional oil is a story about oil
> > > > > > contamination. Sludge and varnish are but minor problems
> > > > > > because oil contamination requires such frequent oil changes -
> > > > > > even if using synthetic oil.
> > > > >
> > > > > Some analysis's, and some engine makers think differently.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you change your oil when it changes colour?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
the car from you. You can ask more for it (at least enough to cover
all those Mobil 1 oil changes!) since it's had Mobil 1 in it for those
2 years...explain why that is a big positive factor if the buyer is
ignorant.
As for your car that was wrecked, you could sell the engine for more,
too, for the same reason.
I plan on keeping my car indefinitely so Mobil 1 is in the engine and
AT. But even if I don't keep it, someone else would benefit from that
care.
Good luck,
John D.
"noway" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<kzOKa.329141$3n5.297076@news2.central.cox.net>...
> Well then there is always the case that I have.
>
> I ran Mobil 1 in my last car, took real nice care of it, and some jerk
> smashed me in the back end and totaled it. Now I have a 2003 Civic EX Coupe.
> Wondering if its worth spending the extra on synthetic, especially since I
> don't know if I'll keep the car more than a year or 2, cause I don't really
> like it that much.
>
> "Bill Freeman" <bfree@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:bat57d$3ado5$1@ID-82447.news.dfncis.de...
> > The original question was on the viability of synthetic vs
> petroleum
> > based oils. This is a Honda newsgroup, so airplane analogies are
> > irrelevant. Synthetics do not generate petroleum sludges and varnish
> (from
> > oil breakdown under heat) because they are not petroleum products, retain
> > their viscosity under pressure, heat & cold .. . and are superior for
> these
> > reasons in automotive applications. What do you not understand?
> >
> > "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:vX9Aa.38035$cK1.13361@news01.bloor.is.net.cab le.rogers.com...
> > >
> > > "Bill Freeman" <bfree@netzero.net> wrote in message
> > > news:bar6n2$2eote$1@ID-82447.news.dfncis.de...
> > > > Automotive engines are not uniformly cooled. That's the
> problem.
> > > > Hot spots occur wherever there is insufficient cooling and/or
> lubrication.
> > >
> > > Uh-huh.
> > > Varying loads, too, like in, oh I dunno...an automobile engine.
> > >
> > > > Lubrication is really a response to insufficient cooling (which
> airplane
> > > > piston engines have aplenty).
> > >
> > > I hope that makes sense to you.
> > >
> > > >Example of the difference is between airplane
> > > > aircooled and VW aircooled .. . which usually required straight 30w
> oils.
> > >
> > > And are run under vastly different loadings than automobile engines.
> > >
> > > > Sludge and varnish occur wherever overheated/insufficiently cooled
> parts
> are
> > > > lubricated.
> > >
> > > Oh.
> > > Gee, the other UG* figures it's the piston blowby.
> > >
> > > >The type of lubrication determines the amount of
> > > > varnish/sludge.
> > >
> > > I hope that makes sense to you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > *Usenet Genius
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:Ok7Aa.36953$cK1.13764@news01.bloor.is.net.cab le.rogers.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > "w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3ED0FEC8.71E79160@hotmail.com...
> > > > > > Cars don't have the large temperature variations that make
> > > > > > synthetic important. You are thinking of temperatures in
> > > > > > terms of human skin. Auto lubricants have mild temperature
> > > > > > ranges which conventional oils are most than sufficient for.
> > > > >
> > > > > My engines run from -31C to over 35C.
> > > > >
> > > > > > The problem is dirt that gets into the oil. It is why
> > > > > > airplane oil comes out so clean and why car oil comes out so
> > > > > > black.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, I guess that's one way of looking at it.
> > > > > Most of the combustion gases in an IC engine go out the exhaust, but
> in
> a
> > > > > jet engine, they *all* do.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Problems such as sludge and varnish would be a problem IF we
> > > > > > did not have to change oils so frequently due to
> > > > > > contamination. That contamination is so great that piston
> > > > > > engines also required crankcase ventilation. That
> > > > > > contamination from around pistons is so great that the EPA
> > > > > > required it to be contained so as to not pollute - the PCV
> > > > > > valve requirement that was later mandated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep. And jet engines just piss it out.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Synthetic verses conventional oil is a story about oil
> > > > > > contamination. Sludge and varnish are but minor problems
> > > > > > because oil contamination requires such frequent oil changes -
> > > > > > even if using synthetic oil.
> > > > >
> > > > > Some analysis's, and some engine makers think differently.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you change your oil when it changes colour?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >